The other day I took three of my children to play at a climbing structure in a fast food restaurant. It was pouring with rain and one of my boys was invited for a playdate. The others were bereft at their own lack of excitement and I thought, right, we'll go to this huge hamster-like tube play area and you can burn off energy while I have a cup of tea and work on editing my friend's PhD (because children screaming in an enclosed area is conducive to deep thought of course).
We weren't there long when a father sitting nearby noted that his daughter and mine were playing well. He said he had four children, though only two were living.
I was so surprised. I think I gaped or otherwise looked stunned.
He apologized and said that they'd had their son (up in the top of the children's hamster tube thingy) and then twins who had died shortly after their birth five years ago despite heroic efforts to save them. Then they'd had his daughter. I of course immediately said, no, don't apologize because I get this. And I told him about us losing George in May and how I can't stand to say that we have four children because we don't. We have five. Only one isn't living with us.
What was really amazing was that he went on to share more about his experience as a bereaved father with me. He said the first two years after his twin daughters died he couldn't really talk about his grief. He said that he watched his wife talk with other women and grieve openly and it would make him angry because he felt that she wasn't moving on. Then, he said, after one year his wife was coping better than he was and then he realized that she hadn't been wallowing or stagnating in grief. She had been grieving and processing their family's tragic loss.
He said that he had spent most of that first year trying to be strong for her. He didn't talk about his grief because he didn't want to upset her, not realizing till later that he couldn't make her more upset or sad than she was. He said it was starting to affect his work, his marriage, and then he realized that he had to be more open about the loss of his daughters.
It was such a comfort to hear, from a man, that men and women do grieve very differently. I needed to hear that. It was worth venturing near all that icky food to meet this other bereaved parent. Providential really.
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17 comments:
What an amazing chance meeting. It's heartbreaking that there are so many of us out there.
What this man shared with you is interesting. Thanks for reminding me to always be open and let my DH be open about our loss.
Wow! I'm sat here once again with tears in my eyes. I'm so glad you could both meet, and how interesting to hear his view as a bereaved father. My dh is always so strong for me,but I worry about him, I see the cracks y'know?
I remember having my car towed across the Port Mann Bridge one day and the tow-truck driver telling me how going over the bridge always reminded him of driving over it when his son was born and died...and I remember my (then) husband telling me how he would cry in his truck in between jobs...yes, they grieve very differently from us.
Such a sad thing in common, yet I admire this man for remembering his girls and always including them as his children. He must be an amazing father.
How incredibly fortuitous. I love the ease that comes when you talk about loss with a fellow grieving parent. I know I would like to hear/read more from the male perspective. There were times when male voices in this community helped me understand my own husband's journey. And he would point to the screen and say, "Yeah, that." XO
Wow, that's amazing. I hope that you get to meet with him again. That's amazing.
That's so awesome. I hate that there are other baby loss parents out there in this world, but what a blessing to meet and talk to them. Only a fellow baby loss parent can connect with you on that level.
xo
Ashley
That's incredible, Karen. The gender differences in grieving can be so starkly different, certainly are in our home. It helps to hear what dads feel. Thank you for sharing this. xo
Men do grieve differently. I am learning this. I have been loved on and remembered by many women, but I don't think my husband has had that support. He was able to go back to work and get away from the grief, but he has told me it has followed him. I am learning to be sensitive to him and not be so selfish with my own pain and my daughter's memory. We have a precious marriage...God is teaching me a different facet of it.
And blessings to you for being there to listen to that father. You shared his burden briefly and I know that ministered to his heart!
Blessings...
So interesting. What he's talking about, I'm going through right now. I grieve for my daughter openly and talk to many mothers about her, while my husband seems to want to take a more business like approach.
i met a bereaved father once. his son had died of trisomy like 20 years earlier, and when he heard my daughter died and came to me with tears in his eyes. what was strange was that i felt such a connection to him, and yet my husband did not. it was like he was an outsider looking in. i worry a lot about the toll that being "strong" has on him. this post gave me alot of insight into what he might be going through.
PS Wanted to wish a blessed new year to you. Your friendship has meant alot to me this past year.
Hello! I'm a lurker, found you through Tuesday's Hope. I hope you don't mind me reading.
I just wanted to thank you for this post. My brother lost his son (born still), and I've often floundered with how to support him because I don't really understand how men grieve. This was very insightful. :)
What a wonderful encounter-to meet a grieving dad and to have him talk of his experience. I bet it was good for the both of you. I'm glad you shared about this!
I usually meet baby lost moms. It is great to meet someone who understands your pain. The connection is instant. Hugsssssss my friend. We are still travelling a lot. I will start work in a week and then I will be home. I will call you.
Well, I don't know if would recommend a play area for PhD editing! So lovely and so sad all at once that you should happen to sit near to this father. Definitely providential.
Someone told me that when I started to feel as if I was coping, I should keep an eye on my husband. Because that was when he would start to fall apart.
I think that men and women do grieve differently. I'm sure my husband thinks I am wallowing sometimes.
It's fascinating, the gender differences, at times. I feel badly for my husband because he was right back at work after a week. They have to kind of suck it up and I know mine has been strong for me. I also told him about Monica at KuKd blog's entry about force-feeling. I'm force-feeling, not wallowing!!!! It was so comforting to meet this father (yeah Catherine - totally stupid place to try to edit but my house is only marginally quieter!!!! LOL) and it's even more so to hear from all of you and know this is the norm. (((Hugs)))
What a beautiful encounter. And you know what, I totally agree with him.
xx
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